Archetypes are the Classes of Remnant 2. In Remnant: From the Ashes, starting archetypes only affected what your starting gear looked like, but each could evolve into the same end-game archetypes. This has been changed for Remnant 2, with your Archetype choice at the beginning of the game making a big difference in what kind of Builds you can create. This page covers all of Remnant 2's archetypes and how you can build them.

As you start the game in Remnant 2, you will be archetype-less, and begin with some generic gear, up until you complete the introduction, in which you will decide your Archetype after interacting with Wallace. Once you do, you can skip the prologue/tutorial every time you create a new character.


 

Related Links

  • Weapons: Learn about the powerful weaponry at your disposal.
  • Armor: Protect yourself from enemy attacks using imposing armor.
  • Perks: Learn all about these passive benefits for each Archetype.
  • Traits: See all the different traits available in the game.
  • Skills: Check all the Skills available for all Archetypes.
  • Combat: Learn all the nuances of Combat.
  • Builds: Check out the most powerful Builds for Remnant 2.

Loadouts in Remnant 2 - New!

Loadouts are a new feature added with a Patch released on October 27th. This allows players to create a gear preset and then recall it with a single button press, reducing the whole process to mere seconds. This includes WeaponsModsMutatorsArchetypesSkillsRelics, Relic Fragments, etc. Loadouts will also save and recall Traits, but will only recall them if you have the Orb of Undoing in your inventory.

Loadouts cannot be used in combat.

 

Navigation

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All Archetypees in Remnant 2

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All Classes
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NEW! Invoker
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Challenger
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Handler
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Hunter
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Gunslinger
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Medic
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Alchemist
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Archon
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Engineer
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Explorer
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Invader
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Summoner
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Ritualist

 

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Alchemist

Utility, Support, Buffing Allies

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Archon

Mod Power, Mod Generation

 

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Challenger

Close Range, Durable. hard to Kill

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Engineer

Heavy Weapons, Turret Support

 

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Explorer

Finding Loot, General Utility

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Gunslinger

Gun Handling, Fire Rate, Ammo

 

 

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Handler

Pet Companion, Teamwork, Utility

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Hunter

Long Range, Marking, Precision Damage

 

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Invader

Evasion, Shadow Decoys

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Invoker

TBA

 

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Medic

Healing, Support, Well-Rounded

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Summoner

Minions, Health Regen, Being Evil 

 

 

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Ritualist

AOE, Status Effects, Damage

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Invoker

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Skills, Status Effects, Ally Buff 

 

The Invoker is a powerful spellcaster who harnesses the mystic power of the jungle. They draw strength from the Nature Spirits of Yaesha, which allows them to cast AoE spells that can damage and afflict enemies with debuffs. At the same time, these spells can also grant buffs on allies, like HP regeneration over time, and even a lifesteal. The Invoker's perks are designed to improve skill usage and their Prime Perk gives them 2X Skill charges of any Archetype


Starting Stats

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xx xx xx xx xx

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

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Armor

Perks

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Visionary

Prime Perk

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Entranced

Damage Perk

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Communion

Team Perk

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Mind and Body

Utility Perk

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Soothsayer

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Gifted

 

Challenger

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Close Range, Durable. hard to Kill

 

The Challenger in a way acts as a Spiritual Succesor of the Scrapper in the first game, Remnant: From the Ashes. He thrives in close combat situations and has an increased survivability, making him an ideal Archetype for the tank role while playing in party. By being mostly a close-combat based Class, the Challenger doesn't rely too much on accuracy. This makes Weapons that don't have a high accuracy stat ideal for this class. Franchise beginners, or Souls-like rookies can find the Challenger as the easiest Class to play given its durability and ability to endure damage before going down.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
109 106 110 59
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5 14 0 0 6

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Die Hard

Prime Perk

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Close Quarters

Damage Perk

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Powerlifter

Utility Perk

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Face of Danger

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Strong Back

Handler

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Pet Companion, Teamwork, Utility

 

The Handler brings a Dog Companion to the fight, and many of his abilities revolve around it. Handlers can determine the nature of the dog by using one of the three skills. While playing Multiplayer, the Handler is a support Class, that may assist the team granting diffferent kinds of buffs.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
103 103 67 33
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6 0 8 3 7

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Bonded

Prime Perk

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Pack Hunter

Damage Perk

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Spirit of the Wolf

Team Perk

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Teamwork

Utility Perk

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Best Friend

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Kinship

Hunter

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Long Range, Marking, Precision Damage

 

The Hunter is the only returning Archetype from Remnant: From the Ashes. It s a long-range damage dealer that focuses on exploiting weakpoints and burst damage


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
103 106 69 36
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6 7 5 13 0

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Dead to Rights

Prime Perk

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Deadeye

Damage Perk

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Return to Sender

Team Perk

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Urgency

Utility Perk

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Intuition

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Longshot

Gunslinger

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Gun Handling, Fire Rate, Ammo

 

The Gunslinger is the mid-range DPS class that focuses on reserving ammo.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
106 103 72 39
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0 10 9 0 6

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Loaded

Prime Perk

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Swift Shot

Damage Perk

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Posse Up

Team Perk

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Quick Hands

Utility Perk

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Sleight of Hand

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Ammo Reserves

Medic

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Healing, Support, Well-Wounded

 

The Medic is a support-oriented Class, that attempts to heal and improve the survivability for teams. Not as tough as other Classes, and a bit more difficult to play, requiring a bit of micromanagement and, specially in multiplayer, paying attention to the overall situation for the whole team.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
106 100 68 35
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15 0 0 8 2

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Regenerator

Prime Perk

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Invigorated

Damage Perk

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Benevolence

Team Perk

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Backbone

Utility Perk

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Benefactor

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Triage

Alchemist

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Utility, Support, Buffing Allies

 

The Alchemist is a support and utility-focused character Archetype. They excel at providing powerful buffs to their allies through the use of vials and consumables. As an Alchemist, their main role is to enhance the effectiveness of their team by providing various beneficial effects and protective abilities.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
103 100 72 42
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5 0 0 7 15

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Spirited

Prime Perk

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Liquid Courage

Damage Perk

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Panacea

Team Perk

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Gold to Lead

Utility Perk

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Experimentalist

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Potency

Archon

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Mod Power, Mod Generation

 

The Archon embodies the support and utility-focused character archetype, wielding unparalleled expertise in Weapon Mods and Mod Power generation. With a deep understanding of the Labyrinth's secrets, they command an array of abilities that bestow potent buffs upon their allies.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
103 103 87 47
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0 12 17 0 0

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Tempest

Prime Perk

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Amplify

Damage Perk

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Power Creep

Team Perk

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Spirit Within

Utility Perk

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Power Leak

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Flash Caster

Engineer

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Heavy Weapons, Turret Support

 

The Engineer is a highly skilled specialist in Heavy Weaponry, capable of carrying or deploying powerful armaments in turret mode. Remnant 2 Engineer's unique abilities, such as Fortify Metalworker,and Magnetic Field, empower them to overclock Heavy Weapons, increase skill damage, and provide damage reduction to allies. As players advance, their Heavy Weapon capabilities and armor effectiveness improve significantly.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
106 106 111.3 58
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0 5 13 0 7

Explorer

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Finding Loot, General Utility

 

The Explorer is a highly skilled specialist known for finding valuable items and providing essential team utility. heir expertise allows them to spawn additional items and rarer drops when defeating formidable enemies. With various abilities, the Explorer can enhance their loot-finding capabilities, boost team damage, uncover hidden treasures, and improve movement speed for all allies. Their keen eye for valuables and valuable support make them an indispensable asset on any adventure.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
100 106 40 21
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5 4 7 9 0

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Lucky

Prime Perk

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Scavenger

Damage Perk

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Metal Detector

Team Perk

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Prospector

Utility Perk

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Self Discovery

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Swiftness

Invader

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Evasion, Shadow Decoys

 

The Invader is a highly specialized character archetype that excels in elusiveness and misdirection on the battlefield. Their unique abilities allow them to deploy decoys, drawing enemy attention away from allies. With enhanced damage, reduced threat generation, and temporary invincibility, they strategically manipulate space-time to gain the upper hand in combat.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
100 112 47 25
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10 0 0 5 10

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Shadow

Prime Perk

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S.H.A.R.K.

Damage Perk

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Loophole

Team Perk

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Circumvent

Utility Perk

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Override

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Untouchable

Summoner

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Minions, Health Regen, Being Evil

 

The Summoner excels in commanding minions to do their bidding. They can enrage their minions, granting them increased damage, attack speed, and movement speed. Sacrificing minions empowers the Summoner's own attacks temporarily. Minions that expire leave healing auras, and using relics boosts their minions' health and damage output. With diverse minion types, such as Root Hollow, Flyer, and Reaver, the Summoner wields a powerful array of abilities.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
103 100 100 56
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3 0 0 7 15

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Ruthless

Prime Perk

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Dominator

Damage Perk

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Residue

Team Perk

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Outrage

Utility Perk

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Incite

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Regrowth

 

Ritualist

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AOE, Status Effects, Damage

 

The Ritualist is a powerful class focusing on status effects and AOE damage, that can make enemies infect their allies with whatever status they are suffering.


Starting Stats

HEALTH STAMINA ARMOR WEIGHT
100 103 90.4 37.6
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5 4 7 9 0

 

Starting Equipment, Perks, Skills and Trait

Weapons

Armor

Perks

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Vile

Prime Perk

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Wrath

Damage Perk

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Terrify

Team Perk

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Dark Blood

Utility Perk

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Purge

Relic Perk

Skills

Trait

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Affliction

 

What are all the Remnant Classes?

 Class
Perks in Remnant 2
Skills in Remnant 2
Traits in Remant 2
Appearances
Scrapper
N/A N/A N/A Remnant: From the Ashes
Ex-Cultist 
N/A N/A N/A Remnant: From the Ashes
Hunter
Dead to Rights, Deadeye, Return to Sender, Urgency, Intuition Hunter's Mark, Hunter's Focus, Hunter's Shroud Longshot Remnant: From the Ashes, Remnant 2
Handler
Bonded, Pack Hunter, Spirit of the Wolf, Teamwork, Best Friend Guard Dog, Support Dog, Attack Dog Kinship Remnant 2
Medic
Regenerator, Invigorated, Benevolence, Backbone, Benefactor Wellspring, Healing Shield, Redemption Triage Remnant 2 
Gunslinger
Loaded, Swift Shot, Posse Up, Quick Hands, Sleight of Hand Quick Draw, Side Winder, Bullet Storm Ammo Reserves Remnant 2 
Challenger
Die Hard, Close Quarters, Intimidating Presence, Powerlifter, Face of Danger War Stomp, Juggernaut, Rampage Strong Back Remnant 2 
Alchemist
Spirited, Liquid Courage, Panacea, Gold to Lead, Experimentalist Vial: Stone Mist, Vial: Frenze Dust, Vial: Elixir of Life Potency Remnant 2
Archon
Tempest, Amplifiy, Power Creep, Spirit Within, Power Leak Reality Rune, Havoc Form, Chaos Gate Flash Caster Remnant 2
Engineer
High Tech, Metalworker, Magnetic Field, Heavy Mobility, Surplus Heavy Weapon: Vulcan, Heavy Weapon: Impact Cannon, Heavy Weapon: Flamethrower Fortify Remnant 2
Explorer
Lucky, Scavenger, Metal Detector, Prospector, Self Discovery Plainswalker, Gold Digger, Fortune Hunter Swiftness Remnant 2
Invader
Shadow, S.H.A.R.K., Loophole, Circmvent, Override Worm Hole, Void Cloak, Reboot Untouchable Remnant 2
Summoner
Ruthless, Dominator, Residue, Outrage, Incite Minion: Reaver, Minion: Hollow, Minion: Flyer Regrowth Remnant 2
Ritualist
Vile, Wrath, Terrify, Dark Blood, Purge Eruption, Miasma, Death Wish Affliction The Awakened King DLC
Invoker
Visionary, Entranced, Communion, Mind and Body, Soothsayer Way of Kaeula, Way of Meidra, Way of Lydusa Gifted The Forgotten Kingdom DLC

 

Remnant 2 Classes Mechanics

Archetype Perks

Remnant 2 Perks provide passive abilities to the player There are 5 Perk Types, and only one Perk per Type for each Class. These passive abilities can be automatically unlocked by leveling up your Archetype, and each one of them will get an upgraded version as you reach the level cap of 10. They will always unlock in the same order, for every Archetype available in the game.(That order being Prime Perk, Damage Perk, Team Perk, Utility Perk, and Relic Perk). This same cycle begins anew, and in the same order, from level 6 to 10, but this time upgrading the base Perks into their final and more powerful version.

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  • Damage Perks: Perks that scale the damage output of your character.
  • Team Perks: Perks that focus on providing buffs and other effects to your allies, the team, or yourself if playing alone.
  • Utililty Perks: Also referred to as "Quality of Life" perks, these Perks provide small buffs that blend well with the rest of the Archetype’s gameplay elements.
  • Relic Perks: Strong Perks that grant temporary effects for a short duration upon using Relics.
  • Prime Perks: Unique and gameplay defining perks for each archetype. Can be considered as each archetype's ultimate ability. It is the only Perk that receives two upgrades. (One at level 5 and the final one at level 10)

 

Archetype Traits

Traits in Remnant 2 can be divided into two categories: Archetype Traits and Core Traits. Core Traits are common to all Classes, and refer to more general bonuses such as increasing AOE size, increasing Damage Reduction, increasing Max Health or Max Stamina, etc. At the beginning of the game, players start with 4 Core Traits unlocked (Vigor, Endurance, Spirit, and Expertise). In order to upgrade them, players need to spend Trait Points. They can be obtained by killing Bosses, finding certain books on the ground, and finally, from taking down Aberrations, which are special super elite Enemies that randomly spawn and have their own particular rewards. There are a total of 21 Core Traits in Remnant 2

Archetype Traits, on the other hand, are unique to each Class, and while playing as that class, they don't require trait points. Instead, they level up as you level up your Archetype, capping at level 10. Once you reach that level, that Archetype Trait is unlocked for any other Archetype. should you decide to switch Class. In this case, leveling up said Archetype Trait also costs Trait Points.

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Archetype Skills

Skills in Remnant 2 are active abilities that serve various purposes during combat, such as providing Buffs and Auras, dealing damage, healing allies etc. These Skills, like Perks and Traits, are locked behind their corresponding Classes or Archetypes. Each Archetype has three Skills to choose from, of which only one can be equipped at any time. You can freely swap your equipped Skill while out of combat at no cost.

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Whereas Weapon Mods require you to defeat Enemies to recharge, Archetype Skills instead work on long cooldowns. This means that once a Skill has been used, you'll have to wait a short period of time before being able to use it again. Making the decision of when to use these Skills a vital 

 

Unlocking and Swapping to new Archetypes

Whereas Remnant: From the Ashes only featured 3 Archetypes, you'll be able to select from a wider variety of them in Remnant 2. You are not locked to your starting Archetype in Remnant 2, as more can be unlocked and swapped to as you progress through the game. There is no cost to swapping to a new Archetype, but you'll still have to level the Archetype from scratch. Regardless, your progression on your previous Archetype won't be reset.

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To change your Class or Archetype, you need to have the corresponding item associated to the Class and equip it, replacing your previous one. This does not destroy the previous item in the process, only swaps it with the one in the inventory. 

Dual Archetypes

After you've progressed through the campaign enough, you'll get the ability to equip a Secondary Archetype, essentially allowing you to multiclass. These Secondary Classes, will have access to all the same features as the Prime Archetype (a choice of one Archetype Skill out of three, a Trait etc.). Except that, you won't be able to equip the Prime Perk from this secondary archetype.

Based on what Archetypes are equipped on your two slots, your class name will be generated. This allows other players to recognize what you are using and how your style of play might be.

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Progression for the Secondary Archetype is separate from the Prime Archetype, i.e., though your Prime Archetype might be at level 6, your Secondary Archetype will start at level 1 when equipped. Any Archetype can be equipped as a Secondary Archetype, allowing numerous Class combinations, and build variety. This section will be updated with more information once more is known about Dual Classes.

Players will earn the ability to equip a secondary Archetype when defeating the Labyrinth Sentinel at The Labyrinth.

(Note for people trying to level up their Archetypes. EXP is split evenly between non-maxed Archetypes. If a normal enemy is 70exp then it is split 35-35 between two unleveled Archetypes, it is split 70-0 between an unleveled and maxed Archetype.)

 

 

 

 

 




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    • Anonymous

      These people are in such denial that down below in the comments on one of the posts a little buddy actually accused every poster of being the same person...which is kinda hilarious when I think about it for a bit too long because that means said poster is also "that person." I swear casuals have a mind break so easily.

      • Anonymous

        Imagine getting butthurt because things were nerfed in a PvE game. Go play a PvP game if you want to complain about things getting nerfed.

        • Anonymous

          Ritualist and HUGS got the nerfs they deserved. Now you can actually learn to play the game casuals rather than just pressing one button to win.

          • Anonymous

            The zoomer generation ruined games and turned them into a meme. An entire generation of sociopaths that love nothing.

            • Anonymous

              If it is a PvE game and the balance doesn't matter then why are you people crutching on Ritualist and HUGz afraid of nerfs? I mean it doesn't matter...right?

              • Anonymous

                Hunter/Gunslinger does not need a nerf because this game is not competetive nor does it have a PvP aspect. All the complaints about why or how the class setup is OP are just players mad THEIR favorite class combo isnt the strongest or as strong at dealing damage as HUGS can be. That is to say, the relative power level of various archetypes does not need to be balanced since there isnt really a meta in the traditional sense because the classes arent competing with each other. Personally, i too wish some classes were a little more buff or their skills more useful and/or powerful. The deal is, again, that it doesnt matter since nothing is on the line. I mean, is there some hot Alchemist combo? No. Personally my favorite so far has been Engineer prime with Hunter sub (even though i started on Hunter) and drop the heavy machine gun, trigger the overdrive and watch enemies melt while i snipe them with Sagittarius or help my little robot buddy with the Chicago Typewriter with the Bandit mod. Some of the skills and prime perks these archetypes have are just useless. I wish i had the DLC to try the Ritualist, my go-to amuket since i picked it up is the Toxic Release Valve. Talk about a must pick its free AOE damage and really wears down the low level mobs.

                • Anonymous

                  A lot of you act like you are being forced to play HUGS and that is not the case, you just want something to B*&th about. I don't see the problem with people wanting to play an OP class, if that is how they want to play. I personally love going back to low level zones after I've leveled up my character in any game and just whomp on the low level baddies that I struggled with in the beginning. As others have said before, it is a PVE game and there are plenty of other class combos you can use. So instead of nerfing one combo and ruining the fun for others, just play what YOU want to play and maybe ask the devs to buff the other classes to be on par. And if you don't like someone else using that build then just ask them to switch or don't play with them.

                  • Anonymous

                    Everyone seems to complain about Hunter/Gunslinger.
                    As a solo player that has to aim via the PS controller, i have no idea what y'all talking about. It doesn't matter what is your damage output if you die in one or two hits.
                    I can't even begin to hope to play if I don't wear full Letomk2 and/or any combination of Challenger/Alchemist/Medic.
                    Hunter? Gunslinger? They don't even enter the conversation, as they don't do anything to help me not-die-instantly.

                    What good is potential 4k dps if you can't ever afford to dish it out?

                    • Anonymous

                      Someone down below stating about metas without understanding WHY metas form in the first place. If we use pro play in games as a metric this is because skilled players will use both the strongest and EASIEST things to give them an advantage and balance teams for games are often either dumb or ignorant of what actually causes those issues. This is the reason the battle rifle stays dominant in Halo because the balance team caters too much to pro whining when the battle rifle isn't the only thing they can use. It is why Tracer is so OP in Overwatch and has always been meta even when BRIGITTE was at the height of her power due to healing on recall and makes her a busted character more than her mobility ever did. It is why FLASH in League of Legends is MUST pick and is something that NEVER should have been added. If you angle toward giving things strengths AND weaknesses you encourage play variety and different tactics...but if you make something both easy to gain advantage from AND strong, like HUGS, then of course every so called "skilled" player is going to orbit around it to carry them. Because skilled players use to adapt to a game...now they want everything handed to them while still calling themselves "skilled".

                      • Anonymous

                        lol Do not use HUGS then. Why are you all so concerned how others play? I am more anoide by Enigma noob players shooting all around and there team them HUGS build. And let's face it if there where no HUGS build people who just complain about next OP build right behind HUGS. lol Come on people do not be so angry. You all need couple of hugs and you will feel better. :)

                        • Anonymous

                          I have played EVERY archetype combo in the game with various combos of prime and sub and I can 100% safely say what breaks HUGS and other combos when it is with them is, as others have said, gunslinger. Honestly it might be bulletstorm and the fire rate increases that send it into the stratosphere.

                          • Anonymous

                            I think the problem with HUGS is not that it is powerful but that it is the lowest risk and easiest to deliver damage. Like, if that level of damage or more were on something with Invader and wormhole skill on a build I don't think people would be as concerned as it would be a high risk and high reward playstyle. HUGS is just too simple to be allowed such high damage it really is braindead.

                            • Anonymous

                              HUGS is not OP because of Hunter, nor because of rapid fire weapons, nor crits, and probably not even stacking damage in and of itself. The problem is two-fold. On the one hand the multiplicative damage it does needs to be nerfed the same way they did Challenger. The hypocrisy on that is ridiculous. On the second hand, I've noticed a pattern with a certain set of archetype combos. ANYTHING with GUNSLINGER is busted as hell. I really think that GUNSLINGER and especially the Bulletstorm skill needs to be nerfed. That one archetype outperforms every other no matter what you combo it with.

                              • Anonymous

                                >HUGS Combo
                                >Maxed out Wrangler 1860 and Western Classic
                                >High Noon set All day EVERY DAY
                                >3 P's: Pipebombs, Pipebombs, and Pipebombs
                                >Bulletstorm? Yes
                                >Rings and Amulets? Whatever looks cool
                                > Weapon Mod: Dreadwalker and Bloodshot

                                TLDR; Gats and goon ****. Bosses BTFO'd. All skill

                                • Anonymous

                                  So many complaining about Hunter/Gunslinger combo being OP. It is not combo it self that is OP it is build meaning combination of gear and classes. And lets be honest HUGS build is just one of many OP meta builds and meta builds in every game are meade to do one thing and that is to be OP. So you dont want to be OP don't use meta builds. Using hunter/gunslinger class combo dos not meant automatically someone runs HUGS or is as broken and OP. It just means it goes well with his play style that he came up with that's all. Its PvE solo game first and coop second with no pvp in game. So why do you care if someone using some OP build? You dont like OP meta builds np dont use it make your own. You dont like other players using it? No problem. Don't play with them.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Gunfire just fixed a bug that allowed challenger's rampage skill to do multiplicative damage...cool...NOW DO THE SAME FOR HUNTER AND GUNSLINGER.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Looking at some of the comments on HUGS I wanted to chip in with my two cents. While HUGS may need a nerf or rework it may not even be HUGS itself that is broken. Notice what TYPE of weapon every HUGS player uses? Rapid fire guns. Honestly I think that rapid fire weapons need a nerf across the board. They make singleshot weapons useless and contribute to the idea that HUGS itself is broken.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        While I don't agree completely with the commenter below that HUGS(Hunt/Gun) needs a nerf I do think it needs a power redistribution. Every archetype combo in the game requires some form of sacrifice of...something...anything...in order to make different builds work. What makes HUGS so busted is that it has too much "stacking" damage and utility buffs that all contribute to the same thing. Ranged damage which is the easiest type of damage to stack and apply to the enemy, on top of really high stacking fire rate and reload speed make this class way too busted. Actually it reminds me of how and why the Uchigatana was so busted in the original Dark Souls simply because of all the stacking damage you could combo with it. I don't want HUGS nerfed so much as I would just like to see the devs rework it a bit to not just be "ranged weapon go brr". Honestly even on hardcore apocalypse I'm rather relaxed when playing it because there is very little I have to keep up with compared to other archetype combos. As a side note I don't think Hunter or Gunslinger are OP by themselves, just that they are when combined. The only problem with Hunter...and maybe that would help to tone down HUGS...is that Hunter's primary perk is way too strong. I know this will probably get a lot of downvotes and honestly that is fine. People love to defend what makes things easier for them. But people like me want a challenging and varied experience and I hope that most of the "git gud" types would agree. Since part of getting good is not abusing broken stuff and wanting it balanced.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          For the duel archetype names, the first half of the name will always be whatever your prime perk is, if you have the challenger as your main archetype then the first half of your title will be Die Hard, if you have the gunslinger then it will be Loaded, etc etc

                                          For the second half of the title, every combination of two archetypes has a unique name, it doesn't matter which is the prime and which is the secondary.
                                          They are as follows:
                                          Gunslinger + Alchemist = Leadbringer
                                          Gunslinger + Hunter = Sharpshooter
                                          Gunslinger + Explorer = Raider
                                          Gunslinger + Engineer = Barrelsmith
                                          Gunslinger + Challenger = Mercenary
                                          Gunslinger + Invader = Professional
                                          Gunslinger + Summoner = Tormenter
                                          Gunslinger + Archon = Firebrand
                                          Gunslinger + Medic = Peacemaker
                                          Gunslinger + Handler = Ridgeback
                                          Alchemist + Hunter = Isolator
                                          Alchemist + Explorer = Apothecary
                                          Alchemist + Engineer = Artificer
                                          Alchemist + Challenger = Conservator
                                          Alchemist + Invader = Trickster
                                          Alchemist + Summoner = Conjurer
                                          Alchemist + Archon = Thaumaturge
                                          Alchemist + Medic = Shaman
                                          Alchemist + Handler = Grey Wolf
                                          Hunter + Explorer = Outrider
                                          Hunter + Engineer = Tactician
                                          Hunter + Challenger = Soldier
                                          Hunter + Invader = Assassin
                                          Hunter + Summoner = Painbringer
                                          Hunter + Archon = Vanquisher
                                          Hunter + Medic = Ranger
                                          Hunter + Handler = Predator
                                          Explorer + Engineer = Pioneer
                                          Explorer + Challenger = Crusader
                                          Explorer + Invader = Marauder
                                          Explorer + Summoner = Herald
                                          Explorer + Archon = Trailblazer
                                          Explorer + Medic = Survivalist
                                          Explorer + Handler = Bloodhound
                                          Engineer + Challenger = Sentinel
                                          Engineer + Invader = Operator
                                          Engineer + Summoner = Mastermind
                                          Engineer + Archon = Luminary
                                          Engineer + Medic = Specialist
                                          Engineer + Handler = Roughneck
                                          Challenger + Invader ÷ Destroyer
                                          Challenger + Summoner = Overseer
                                          Challenger + Archon = Arbiter
                                          Challenger + Medic = Guardian
                                          Challenger + Handler = Bulldog
                                          Invader + Summoner = Tyrant
                                          Invader + Archon = Ruiner
                                          Invader + Medic = Bloodletter
                                          Invader + Handler = Prowler
                                          Summoner + Archon = Invoker
                                          Summoner + Medic = Defiler
                                          Summoner + Handler = Beastmaster
                                          Archon + Medic = Virtuoso
                                          Archon + Handler = Harrier
                                          Medic + Handler = Shepherd

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Updated the page (took 5 seconds) to reflect "Archetype" instead of "Classes", hopefully that will help make it a bit clearer on passerbys. I Haven't looked at renaming the actual thread (may not be able to). Oh well, cheers

                                            • Anonymous

                                              A new update to the game has made getting some of the trickier classes for hardcore characters without just starting as them. We know that if you unlock the class on a character then you can start as it on a new character, well now Wallace just sells the engrams if you have unlocked them on other characters. This was obviously added to be less frustrating for your second characters, but also helpful for hardcore characters.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Makes sense, this was incredibly powerful and arguably the best AOE clear in the first game. Definitely deserved a difficult unlock, and a neat nod to the modding community

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  How are you supose to get The Engineer class on Hardcore, on normal you sort off need to die to get it. But you can't die on hardcor :O

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Why the hell is this page called "Classes" when in-game it's called "Archetype"? Screws up the search function in this wiki, too

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Is anyone facing a bug that when you are in your character page. The game only shows up your prime architype and you just cant edit your secondary architype. The icon is disappeared and the architype "flag" behind my character shows the prime architype only while I can actually use two artchitype skill.

                                                      In my case, I use hunter as prime, gunslinger as secondary. Now the game only shows hunter as my class in character page while i can still use gunslinger skill. Which mean my secondary class can never be edited as the icon is gone.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        The Archon Archetype is unlocked via having these conditions below:

                                                        One must have the:
                                                        Explorer Archetype (Treasure Hunter Unlocked)
                                                        Invader Archetype (Wormhole Unlocked)
                                                        Realmwalker Armo(u)r Set
                                                        Labyrinth Staff
                                                        Cube Gun
                                                        Ford's Scattergun

                                                        The jewelery required are as follows:
                                                        Amulet = Leto's Amulet
                                                        Rings = Anastasija's Inspiration, Amber Moonstone, Zania's Malice, and the Black Cat Band

                                                        To open "THE DOOR":
                                                        Simply step up to the door with all above equipped and you will have a red glitchy effect on your person. The door will be interact-able in this state.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          For people like myself looking for definitive information on your second archetype, you do get to seamlessly use both archetypes' active abilities. On Xbox, you do this by holding LB, then selecting RB or RT.

                                                          I searched for this to be explicitly stated all over several wikis and forums, but found nothing.

                                                          The ONLY thing you miss out on is the Prime Perk from your second archetype.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            Archon has been discovered and has been obtained. to do so you need the following.

                                                            Full loadout:

                                                            Engram Explorer

                                                            Skill Fortune Hunter

                                                            Engram Invader

                                                            Skill Worm Hole

                                                            Armor Body Explorer

                                                            Armor Gloves Explorer

                                                            Armor Head Explorer

                                                            Armor Legs Explorer

                                                            Relic Consumable Void Heart

                                                            Amulet Letos Amulet

                                                            Ring Amber Moonstone

                                                            Ring Black Cat Band

                                                            Weapon Cube Gun

                                                            Weapon Ford's Scattergun

                                                            Weapon Labyrinth Staff

                                                            Ring Anastasijas Inspiration

                                                            Ring Zanias Malice


                                                            then interact with corrupted portal in the labyrinth

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Tip when leveling archetypes: The exp gain is split, so it's actually better to stick with your level 10 prime archetype and simply swap out your secondary

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                So.... Does the Archon exist? How to get through that damn door in the lab?

                                                                Im still convinced the Archon exists, the skills and perks we were able to see on this site at some point really looked like real things, and I cant believe the devs didnt make a mod archetype. Maybe he's in an upcoming dlc though. Still that would be very weird, as every area has one secret archetype to unlock, except for the lab, unless Archon exists, in which case the lab has its arch too, which makes the most sense to me.

                                                                How to get the archetype if it exists? I feel like I found everything in the lab, except a way to get through the door with the red lines, so maybe the archetype is behind this door, maybe not. Anyway, there must be something juicy hidden behind that door.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  Handler + Medic: Bonded Shepherd
                                                                  Medic + Handler: Regenerator Shepherd
                                                                  Looks like it's [Active Prime perk] + [Class combo title]

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    this game seriously needs some kind of build saving system. like, unlock an extra build tab for every 2 unique archetypes you max out or something like that. there are soooooo many builds you can do and starting a new character is kindof a pain when all you wanna do is use a different setup using stuff you already own. not to mention relic fragments unless those or the total-archetype-levels-counter are already account wide or something like that.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      There's no point in asking the mods to put back up the old information pertaining to unlocking Archon because the information that was available early on was a joke.
                                                                      They were just references to the backrooms, one of the screenshots was of a crummy doodle of the Ravager on a wall and the player character picking up a Gunfire Lanyard as an amulet. The only thing in that wiki entry that was said to be needed to access the Corrupted door in the Labyrinth was to be "corrupted," with no specific instructions and a vague non-answer to go by. Chances are it was a goofy photoshop or some of the devs messing around.

                                                                      The community hunt for this Archetype will just have to keep going, like all the other secrets that took time to figure out in From The Ashes.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I don't know if anyone has tried this yet but I feel like this is the best place to ask. To get through the corrupted door to Archon, do you have to defeat every Aberration? The color/pattern match up, I feel like the two could definitely relate.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          We know what the Archon has for gear and perks/traits and starts with, fextra. Please just unlock the page so we can help everyone figure this out. The game has released officially now, and I think it's time to re-open that page

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            You may as well just show the Archon page Fextralife, your search bar betrays you and shows us the information partially anyways, stop being greedy and trying to withhold information.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              Mods denying access to the Archon information pages is awful. This isn't what a wiki is for. I can't add any information to the pages because they want to curate what the community is allowed to know.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                You can combine items with Dream Catcher if you inspect the weapon in your inventory. The prompt is very finnicky and takes a lot of rotating. I don't know what you combine it with yet. You can do the same with Atom Smasher, and the Rebellion spear. I am trying to see if I can corrupt the weapon in some way to open the red door.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  ugh we need a hint on the Archon. We KNOW it's real. I've been trying to think for two days straight on how to crack open that glitchy door

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    For reasons that I do not understand, it is only possible to have 5 archetypes at once. If you want to make another, you have to delete one you already have.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Achertype Invader found. you can get the item at root earth on the screaming ball. you need a dreamcatcher mele weapon to get walker dream then use it on quick slot.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        SUMMONER FOUND!! purchased from the shop stone randomly found on Yaesha, purchased for 15 "Blood Moon Essence". You can get these from shooting the flying purple wisp like things randomly found throughout Yaesha. Can be found in both story and adventure mode.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          Found the Invader! Not the first, I did find a guide though. You need the dream catcher from Losomn. Between the 1st checkpoint and 2nd checkpoint in the horde room there is a hole in the first floor wall in a corner. Follow the path and it will lead you to a open area with enemies and a bulb in the middle. Kill the enemies and pick up the amulet off the bulb. Equip the dream catcher and try to hit the bulb, instead you will poke it and gain a new consumable. Quick slot the consumable and use it, get teleported to an alternate area with a boss fight. Kill the boss and get the wooden shiv!

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            What do u do if u didn't pick the gunslinger as ur starting class in the EA? Can I just never unlock all classes now?

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Event location (Manticora From the Drain) : Ironborough , Losomn
                                                                                              When you defeat this Manticora it will drop the Philosopher's Stone.

                                                                                              Event location (Manticora From the Drain) : Tiller's Rest, Losomn
                                                                                              Manticora Den : Dead Body will have the Alchemist Armor

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                There appears to be 3 additional archetypes: Engineer (skill invokes heavy weapons that can be placed as turrets), Archon (Mod enthusiast) and Invader (trickster archetype). With those 3, each area has an archetype

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Weird that Scrapper and Hunter made the jump to the sequel but Ex-Cultist seems to have not, unless these aren't all the classes.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    There are at least 3 more Archtypes and they are in the IGN review, we have Summoner, Alchemist, and Explorer

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      If you combine the Medic and Handler you could help your friends/companions stay alive, but also have an additional combantant at your side (The dog).

                                                                                                      Together with the Handler Archetype perk, Team Work, you can now revive people 30 % faster and take 25 % less damage and additionally with handler and medic you get -2 in stagger while reviving.
                                                                                                      Not sure if it will be -2 or -1 on reduced stagger while reviving as the Medic's Relic Perk states it will only get -1 on stagger be uppon usage of relic and I'm assuming they go hand in hand since relics are used for healing and reviving .

                                                                                                      Select Medic as a Main Archetype and Handler as second. This will allow you to able to get relics back regularly due to the Prime Perk the medic class has (Heal 250 health to allies and get a relic back).
                                                                                                      Especially if you have a dog at your side since it will act as an ally, at least theoretically. But I hope the dog does count as an ally because otherwise it will be hard to use that prime perk if you're playing alone as a medic as there wont be any allies to heal.

                                                                                                      You can also use the ability "Healing Shield" which allow you and your allies get a shield that lasts for 10 seconds and heal 30 % of their health. Almost giving you a guranteed way to revive any co-op person without using the help of an A.I dog, but still keeping the dog fighting for you.

                                                                                                      It should allow you to keep your dog alive much better as well since the Healing Shield can reach up to 25 meters and you have to be as close as 25 meters to get the 30 % damage boost from the Handlers Perk.

                                                                                                      So damage percentages from each class combined would be 55 % damage increase + 10 % critical chance + Dog. But if you're further than 25 meters away you will only get 25 % damage and 5 % critical chance, so dog is important, keep it alive.

                                                                                                      Also when the dog is near the player it will heal itself because it's near us. So if that count towards the Medic's Prime Perk you will be able to use Relics very often as long as you utilize being near the dog since relics will be regenerated once you have healed an ally up to 250 health.

                                                                                                      I think this is the peak of a support class as long as you can stay alive yourself. You might not be the best with weapons, but you are the best at supporting, reviving, healing and perhaps even distracting thanks to the dog with maybe Challenger being slightly better.

                                                                                                      Anyways, hope to see other combinations below and the ideas behind them (:

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        I really hate the changes to traits, I loved stacking all the passives in the last game, and all your actives were gear based so it's not like you could do everything anyway. I'm floored nobody else is as annoyed as I am, this is a massive loss of player power.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          So if I combine Challenger with Gunslinger and take prime perk of the Challenger , will I still get that sweet 100 % ammo reserve from the Gunslinger? Or will I get Strongback? Or both?

                                                                                                          My understanding is that I get all archetype perks from both Challenger and Gunslinger if I combine them and I can take whatever archetype skill I want from either Gunslinger or Challenger, but I can only have one prime perk so I have to choose wisely.

                                                                                                          Correct my faults please : )

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